Rusty White Posted August 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Ed, IMHO, you have done a more than admirable job as Head Ship Judge over the years. The ship guys have done well during your leadership and I hope you have many more years ahead. I seriously doubt you're are the only HJ dealing with COVID. My prayers are with you and your family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcorley Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 I don't know if Jim Clark will see this, but they began moving models into the correct categories Wednesday. I would imagine some prejudice has begun, if only on an individual basis by each team leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JClark Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 How so James ?, all we are doing getting things were they belong, IE oob without instructions.We are also making room, since alot of categories are very cramped. But I'm not sure what you are referring to by Prejudice ? Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelsmith Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Ed, thanks for the further feedback. I trust that you and your wife are recovering ok from this nasty illness. Interesting to hear you met Tony Horton our UK Comps Secretary when he was Stateside. He is a really nice guy to get along with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFGrune Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Yes, Tony's and my paths had been criss-crossing for several days. We both went through Memphis and Nashville, and both had been to the Jack Daniels whisk(e)y distillery before ending up in Chattanooga. Toured the civil war battlefield and rode the inclined railway down to the bottom of the hill to get some ice cream. There I saws this chap wearing a Lancaster bomber t-shirt and I figured that he had to be one of us modelers. I struck up a conversation and found that he was one of IPMS-UK's members. Our paths crossed again several more times over the next few days. Last I saw of him he was walking away after winning one of the Tamiya P-38 raffle kits. I wrote Tony suggesting some stops for a 2020 trip part of the San Marcos, TX tour. Learning that Tony liked to indulge a bit, so I started him off in Fredericksburg, TX. It is the best wine producing area in Texas (Texas wine? Pffft you say!) Also some bourbon and rum distilleries. Fredericksburg is the boyhood home of Admiral Nimitz and the site of the Museum of the Pacific War. It is an excellent stop I got him through Houston and NASA to New Orleans. New Orleans; music, food, culture, and the home of the National WWII museum. From there, through Mobile Alabama and the museum at the USS Alabama then on to Pensacola and the naval air museum. But, like I said, the world changed. If you can work it out, plan on 2023 when IPMS-USA is going to try San Marcos again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Filippone Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 How could “some prejudice” have begun, “ if only on an individual basis by each team leader “ when neither the teams nor their leaders have been appointed yet and won’t be until Friday night? Nor will the categories they will judge be assigned until then. Nick Filippone, Senior National Judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcorley Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 13 hours ago, JClark said: How so James ?, all we are doing getting things were they belong, IE oob without instructions.We are also making room, since alot of categories are very cramped. But I'm not sure what you are referring to by Prejudice ? Jim Oy, frikkin autocorrect Prejudge, not Prejudice (prejudging) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 Interesting to compare how the UK (the Godfather of IPMS) and the US differ in the approach to judging. I was particularly interested in the UK using a process to disqualify models; our approach is that each model deserves to be judged. Thus the effort to see that each entry is in its most logical category prior to the start of judging. That requires a considerable amount of effort from the first entries being placed on the tables, continuously to the official start of judging, and then, in a few cases, after judging has begun. Entries moved after judging begins may result in rejudging the categories into which the vagabond entry is placed. But every model deserves to be judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 9:50 AM, jcorley said: Oy, frikkin autocorrect Another victim of helpful technology. I feel for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexstart Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 they lost and them some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelsmith Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Highlander, there are significant differences in how the UK and USA run their respective annual competitions. In the UK we have constraints imposed due to the use of a commercial exhibition centre. Friday is a general trader and display stand set up day. Our competition entries go onto the table on Saturday morning up to mid day and judged within a tight time frame in the afternoon. The competition area has to be opened again late afternoon so that 1 day visitors get a chance to see the winning entries. The USA competition tends to be based around a hotel with exhibition hall facilities so you have more time and flexibility to deliberate at length whilst judging and move models about. At Telford the halls have to be cleared of people by 6pm on the Saturday and 5pm on the Sunday. That is why competitors who do not place their models in the correct category or fall foul of any other rules get disqualified. It may seem draconian, but we simply do not have the luxury of being able to judge in a more leisurely fashion long into any evening. It's just the way it is unfortunately. SMW is such a big show now that IPMS UK has to use a large commercial exhibition centre and the constraints that go with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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