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  1. Dak, I whole heartedly agree that show visitors should not be charged extra over and above the entrance fee to have access to vendors. After all, vendors pay a pitch fee at shows do they not? Extra charging of visitors for access to them is both counter productive to the show and also detrimental to the vendors who have paid to trade there. I guess either a room of fenced off trader area has to be set up to facilitate this and have to be marshalled. I am not aware of this practice at any shows over here in the UK and it certainly does not happen at SMW Telford where traditionally traders tables are mixed in with display stands throughout the show. If traders were placed in one area and visitors expected to pay extra to access them, they would kick off considering the fees they pay to trade! In view of this, no kit selling is allowed from under club and special interest group tables. A kit swap (in reality a second hand kit sales area) is run by IPMS at Telford for members to dispose of unwanted kits, books etc. At local model shows in the UK however, many allow under table sales.
  2. Rusty has already pointed out that the show has to make a profit. I would surmise that casual transient visitors to the US Nationals would be small in number compared with the number of members and non members who have an interest in the hobby visiting. You cannot pander to those who who might just wander in off the street for a couple of hours and just give the models a casual glance before leaving and forget what IPMS is upon going out the door As for worrying about them getting annoyed when they get to vendors because they actually have to pay to buy something? Er, isn't that the same at any other venue? If you take your kids to a zoo or theme park you don't get the ice creams and souvenir merchandise for nothing either do you?
  3. It is a difficult thing setting an entrance fee that does not sell the society short but also remain attractive. Dak brought up about a co worker taking his family and finding the entrance fees prohibitive. Well maybe the answer to this is that adults pay and their kids get in free on a day ticket. It depends on various things when costing out as small local shows generally have a bit more flexibility than when a large venue is booked and has to funded.
  4. I have seen a recent announcement that SMW at Telford will be going ahead this year. However it will be subject to some restrictions such as having covid free documentation to show in accordance with UK Government legislation. This will apply to all, no exceptions. The other thing is that admission tickets will have to be pre booked by non members wishing to attend the show. Best advice will be to keep up to date regularly by looking at the IPMS UK website.
  5. The posts in this thread made interesting reading. Multi day and 'family' passes for non members unfortunately are always open to abuse. At IPMS UK SMW Telford I believe that non members are charged per person per day to get into the show so access abuse is not really so much of an issue, but they do however also have the option of joining the society on the day. IPMS UK members of course have access on both days as part of their membership. The other thing that happens is that on each day members get access to the halls one hour before non members so that they can get to their favourite traders early. The other thing is that at Telford IPMS runs a swap meet for members to sell off old kits, and this area is not accessible for non members until about half way through each day so members are not competing for kits and other things with the general public each morning.
  6. Agreed Ralph! The Flexifile is a really good tool that has been around for.many years, and the belts are available in three different grits, coarse, medium and fine. The coarse is about the equivalent of a very fine sandpaper grit.I Sometimes the glue gives out before the belts wear out so I am about to experiment in making my own belts for the flexifile by cutting strips of wet n dry paper and fine emery cloth in various grits and gluing back loops to fit the Flexifile frame.
  7. noelsmith

    Lana Kane

    'A day at the beach'. A deserted beach I would reckon with the sniper weapon being so conspicuous! LOL Nice tongue in cheek model though David.
  8. Just out of interest, and not answering this question directly, here is a shameless product plug! IPMS UK produce two seam removal tools worth looking out. Check on their website.
  9. Ed, thanks for the further feedback. I trust that you and your wife are recovering ok from this nasty illness. Interesting to hear you met Tony Horton our UK Comps Secretary when he was Stateside. He is a really nice guy to get along with.
  10. Ed, thanks for the explanation about the Convention judging. You guys certainly get a lot more latitude to judge than we do at Telford. Is the convention open to the public or just IPMS members? I have often thought about flying over for one. Telford is a two day show but competitors models have to left on display in the competition area on the Sunday as the show is also open to the entry fee paying public. Setup is usually done on the Friday and restricted to the UK Exec. Committee, Traders, Branch (chapter) and Special Interest Groups.
  11. Rusty, is the registration done on the Friday evening prior to the two days of the US convention? It would explain why judges get the time to move models. Because at Telford models have to be pre registered, the models have to be placed on the competition table by 11am on the Saturday morning of the show, and judged in a tight time frame in the afternoon immediately after the judges briefing. The competitors will have their entry slips already written up to place by the models. They normally get them either by email or in the post well before the show. Telford is a dedicated exhibition venue, so only the IPMS UK exec. Traders and Table Exhibitors can have entry on the Friday evening for setting up. As the US convention is generally hotel based, I would guess that you have a bit more flexibility.
  12. Jim Clark made a salient point about a high percentage of contestants not reading the rules properly. From what I have surmised about the IPMS USA Convention judges move models if they are placed in the wrong category? I guess that there must be a lengthy time available for judging to enable this. At the IPMS UK SMW at Telford we have a very limited time frame in which to judge the models. If models are misplaced or fall foul of the rules they get disqualified, simple as that. The onus is placed on the entrant without exception. The rules are quite specific. All models have to be pre entered, and it any modeller is unsure about what class to enter they are advised to contact the Competition Secretary before they submit their entry. As a judge it is a pity to have to disqualify well made models who's entrant falls foul of the rules.I Getting back to GSB, golds signify the recognition of a very high level of competence in modelling that would have to be based on a points attained system in the judging, as would the silver and bronze awards. We used to have a show in the UK named the Model Engineer and Modelling Exhibition that was sponsored by a publisher of model related books and magazines, now unfortunately long gone. They ran the exhibition using the GSB standard, and so the aim was to get a gold rather than a first past the post win with first second or third. The GSB it was felt recognised more modellers for their ability than the First, Second, Third system.
  13. Ralph, Telford is an open contest, the only requirement being that contestants are current IPMS members. National Champion....or..Best of Show! Same thing. Just different terminology as far as I can see at SMW Telford and IPMS USA Convention level The point I was making was how would that be determined under a GSB system? Incidentally, IPMS UK dropped the ladder contest as you named it by branch (chapter) qualifiers well over 20 years ago. Why you brought this up I do not know as there was no reference to it in my posts.
  14. I have judged at Telford for a number of years. The first thing I look for is how the model is put together. i.e. 'The basics' Proper assembly, line up, mould marks filled and rubbed down smooth, good joints etc. etc. This quickly sorts out the also rans. Painting and weathering often regarded as the 'fun stuff' but is very unforgiving when the basics are not observed and can never be used as a cover up for skimped workmanship. Any job is only as good as the preparation. Finesse in my book is getting the model right from the basics through to final finishing.
  15. 123 or GSB? That is the question! 123. With a first in each category it is easier for the judges to choose an eventual National Champion. GSB. How would a National Champion he chosen it there are numerous golds awarded in each category? I can see this being a logistical nightmare for the judging panel. Unless of course the new aim is for competitors to achieve gold by achieving a certain set number of points, and scrapping the National Champion award altogether.
  16. I think that David's reply to John's post of 27th July was just a tongue in cheek but of humour. In one of two posts the point was made about woke minded individuals pontificating to the rest of us about what and what not we should be doing in this apparently PC age. What happened to social and workplace banter? It is a sad situation where one has to be so careful about what remarks we make, just in case we are in earshot of some woke individual going out of their way looking to be offended! A sad instance of this was that a male professor was in an elevator and made a light hearted joke when the lift was stopping by saying 'Second floor, ladies underwear'. This was overheard by a colleague who went straight to HR and eventually lost the professor his job. How sad is that, when the remark was probably not intended to offend anyone? I fear that we are living in times where liberties that we should be able to take for granted are being gradually eroded. However, I am not saying that remarks deliberately intended to offend should not go unnoticed.
  17. David, as a fellow countryman of yours said some time ago at Wimbledon.......'You can not be serious!'. LOL Mayhem, discord, unpredictability and confusion? Sounds like our UK government dealing with the pandemic!
  18. If over here in the UK is anything to go by, many branches (chapters in the states) are notorious for not keeping websites up to date. Best just try and contact directly the ones you know of I would suggest.
  19. Wearing a mask is just a minor inconvenience to you guys in the grand scheme of things. Nobody likes wearing them I know. One of the things on my to do list is to fly over and attend one of your nationals. Unfortunately a no no this year with all the flight disruption and a UK government constantly changing the goalposts with regard to quarantine upon return and what countries it deems safe. Maybe things will be back to normal next year? Let's see!
  20. Problem is with a different USA chapter having to organise a venue and competition layout each year, it will be impossible to cater for the desires of each and every genre of model builder. Over here in the UK we have the advantage being a much smaller country in using one dedicated exhibition centre venue year on year. This enables any 'tweaking' to be done to the competition and display areas learning from experience. All entries have to be pre booked, so this allows a bit more flexibility in organising spaces in the competition area.
  21. Looks like my certificates suggestion went down like a lead balloon judging by the responses, so it looks as though the bling appears just as important to many as well as the recognition. I have won quite a few trophies in my time and some look good and others just look cheap. My biggest problem is the space they take up, so medals would certainly save space as they could be tucked away in a drawer of not required next to the model. I would much prefer a medal stamped from metal to a gaudy free standing trophy that is predominately made from plated plastic. Other than what I originally suggested, GSB medals that can be made generic without the year engraved on them so that leftovers could be used the following year would seem the most viable option as suggested in a previous post. Personally, I would stick with First, Second and Third for each class that would make trophies and the competition a lot easier to administer.
  22. If going down the Gold, Silver and Bronze route for a club competition I would take a pragmatic approach and have plenty of generic certificates printed up for each. Paper costs next to nothing whereas trophies could be very expensive to have made for an environment where it will be impossible to ascertain what will be needed for each. GSB however has one pitfall in that all the models will have to be judged against a set number of points that would have to be achieved for each to ascertain what GSB recognition will be awarded. Lots more judging time would have to be put into this, and one has to ask how much time would be taken up with this as club shows are generally one day events. Otherwise going the First, Second and Third route would probably be much easier to administer if awarding actual trophies for the model classes in the competition.
  23. David. If Scale Finishes cannot help, try the Ditzler or Du Pont websites and see if there are any reference numbers for the finish for that particular vehicle that you are looking for. If you can obtain these you might be able to get an aerosol or some touch up paint made up at an automotive accessory outlet. Failing that get in touch with an auto repair shop or restorer who might be able to help you get the specifications for the paint that you want. Plain colours are the same whether on full size or scale models. Problems occur when using metallics as the metallic particles within cannot be scaled down. Sometimes you have to think a bit laterally and outside the normal scale model supplier box when situations like this occur. Looking at the photo of the pick up, the colour looks remarkably like Tropical Turquoise, one of the range of colours that was used on the iconic 57 Chevy. It probably is not, but looks close in the photo.
  24. With regard to model making being an art, the late Gerald Wingrove was of the opinion that it is. For those who don't know of Gerald Wingrove he was a professional master modeller who mainly scratch built model cars for very wealthy private collectors. His models can be viewed on the Wingrove Workshop website. I can guarantee that you will be blown away with what you will see there. Gerald's models are the epitome of Artistry, Craftsmanship and Accuracy. He has written books on scratch building model cars, that I certainly found very inspirational. The Complete Car Modeller. Volumes 1 and 2.
  25. Dak was quite right that scratch building does not guarantee accuracy and the mistakes would be that of the model maker alone. It would come down both to the craftsmanship of the modeller in making each individual part absolutely correctly and if they have 100 percent guaranteed accurate references to work to. In many respects Dak has made some very relevant comments on the subject of accuracy or craftsmanship. References alone can be a minefield when researching a model with often conflicting views in books and on plans etc. Artistic licence is used a lot on many models that I have seen, particularly on many aircraft models where there is absolutely beautiful panel highlighting with subtle shading done. However when you look at the real thing none of that is very apparent at all. But on the other hand a model looks a bit dead without it but would be technically a more accurate rendition of the subject. The whole thing starts to become a bit subjective, and comes down to what is the more pleasing on the eye when viewed in model form. Personally, I like the artistic approach to see the subtle paintwork on models that demonstrates the skills of the modeller, whereas others may disagree. It all comes down to personal preference at the end of the day.
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