jcorley

Ditto on all the hard work, been there & done that. Don't look at it as a cancellation; look at it as a very serious dry-run for 2023!

Uh-oh ... that's a dangerous step towards GSB!!!! (it's been mooted now, but still)

I, for one, have held off making the final portion for our group entry display. The rest is built and we designed it to be reusable for the foreseeable future. An item that is around $200 that may or may not be used this year (the durability of these things in storage is a potential issue) is a factor in our chapter's planning. There are two local chapters here, and one has already decided against sending that group's display entry as their chapter leadership has opted out of attendance for health reasons (the doctor said NO!) but it will hold for a year. I just might enter my contribution and see how it fares. For others, there is the consideration of time off work, travel arrangements (especially airfare) and other cost factors that might not be so easy to recoup at the last minute. Last-minute cancellation fees are not always consumer freindly.

I agree with Gil. I think our demographic being what it is (old guyz) that this may be the smallest nationals in a few decades... too many people just won't feel safe going. I'll go, and will take whatever precautions we are instructed to take. I hope the venue/hosts/USA will have plenty of masks & hand sanitizer to hand out, as there will be those who don't think about and will be required to have one to get in.

Dave, 20-23 July 2022 per the updated bid presentation I happen to have

No need to be embarrassed, most people don't know about that little quirk of ours. The point was that there has been a precedent for eliminating hypothetical for several years now. My favorite hypothetical that got by the judges was a purple Braniff L-1011 about 15-20 years ago, a beautifully done Hasegawa kit that should have been moved.

I this age of closed museums and social distancing, the National Museum of Naval Aviation has begun a series of Facebook Live events. They stream live at 1100CT every Thursday. This week's event was about the restoration team, and was led by the museum director, Captain Gillam. https://www.facebook.com/events/3682874228405702/ Next week's event will be about the P5M Marlin and I've heard it will be led by IPMS member Kim Sheldon. (Several of us either work there or are volunteers) Check them out: https://www.facebook.com/NavalAviationMuseum

Acts of God (Pandemic) - check (unless it is proven that the Chinese manipulated the virus, then it becomes an act of war, so check anyways) civil disorder - check curtailment or interruption of transportation facilities - check State Department travel advisory - check (for foreign attendees, anyway) Any other emergency of a comparable nature beyond the parties‟ control - check At one point, I believe, the EB required event insurance. If not, the only way to cancel this would be if the facility closes. Either way, it should certainly be required in the future.

I fear there will not be many European vendors this year (if any) My outgoing parcels to Europe are routed thru Miami, where there is now a single flight to all of Europe a day. All have been stuck since late February, and I am warning customers of the delay. The transportation simply does not exist for our International friends to get here. IAH has single flights to Frankfurt & Doha now DFW has single flights to Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Heathrow & Paris 6 planes a day to/from Texas, when there were about 25 at the first of the year. Even if one is lucky enough to book a flight, the entry requirements right now are too onerous for a commercial venture.

Ships did away with hypothetical years ago. A planned, but never executed variant or even a totally fictional watercraft, goes into the category it would otherwise belong to

Dave, I suspect that happens because the builder wants to use a built piece of armor without having to take the suspension apart to make it work on an uneven surface. JMO

Here is the actual rule: Bases – Military Vehicles. Any AFV model that is displayed upon a base may have ‘basic’ groundwork; i.e., dirt, grass, roadway, a low stone wall, etc. No part of that groundwork may extend taller than the topmost portion of the body of the model; i.e., no trees, buildings, structure, chimney, water-tower etc. Any vehicle entry that has more than basic groundwork will be defined as a Vignette (see Rule 19, below), and will be transferred to the appropriate Category for judging there. Any model entered into an AFV category that is displayed upon a base, permanently or temporarily, may have no more than two (2) figures in total and the figure(s) must be a crew member; only one (1) figure may be affixed to the base off the vehicle; a second figure must be affixed to or within the vehicle model. If there are more than two figures total, the entry will be defined as a Vignette, and will be transferred to the appropriate Category for judging there. According to what you said, the head judge (Dave Khan) was correct to move them to 800s for judging. IPMS has a long history of guys trying to bend the rules and push the envelope to give their entry a perceived edge over the competition, with armor guys doing things to their bases while trying to stay out of the 800 categories. The push-back against this trend started about a decade ago and was codified a few years ago and is being enforced now, apparently. I agree with Nick & Dave (and Mr. Kahn) that they should have read the rules. Hopefully, nobody caused a ruckus when the discovered their models had been moved and located them in the 800s

No so, if the challenge coin/medal style is approved The E-board would buy medals in bulk for the economy of scale. The awards could be the same, year-after-year with an insert for that year's show. The IPMS/USA logo on the obverse with the local host design on the reverse.

Dave, The way it was designed to work back when we TRIED to give a presentation at Phoenix 2004 (I was the chairman of that committee) was exactly like the judging we use now. Models that don't "make the cut" would get nothing. Models that "make the cut" would get at least a Bronze. Some, of better quality would get a silver, and the best in the category would get a Gold. It might happen that all the one that would have been 1-2-3 end up getting gold, some or all 3 might only get a silver. It has also been suggested that we combine the two, still doing 1-2-3 and awarding medals to other the judges of that category felt worthy of recognition. And we wouldn't have to worry about sweeps/no-sweeps As for the award costs, the price would actually go DOWN if a true GSB system (not a hybrid system) were adopted. Instead of placques/awards that can cost about $15 each (about $45 per category is the average I found on the last data in excel for total awards vs categories), the cost of challenge coin style medals drops to about $2 each, depending on the volume ordered. IPMS would also incur a one time tooling charge for a custom sculpted logo on the obverse if chosen. There would be more awards, enough to have every deserving model to get an award, Atlanta spent $19,125 on our awards. Given that some of the awards would remain the same, the big awards currently retail for $86 and $79 so we'd still have to spend about $1000 on those awards, that would leave a budget able to buy 9000 medals! Considering we've never again had more than 3000 entries, that is enough medals for three shows!! If we were to create a semi-hybrid system with GSB plus a single First Place (Platinum?) per category (194 per posted categories with splits at $70 each) would allow for 2000+ medals to be purchased for the same unadjusted budget from 14 years ago. 19,125 2005 amount -1,000 big trophies -13,580 first place awards =$4,545 for medals, or 2272 medals @ $2 each (or fewer if we choose to spend more for nicer/bigger medals) Of course, this is all a WAG based on partially outdated information, but it is an answer for what you asked

David might have a valid point about show length. I had not considered the extra expense to foreign travelers. With Friday night judging, the most we could do in my opinion would be to eliminate the first day and open the show on Thursday afternoon (3pm?) for the early birds with just Friday and Saturday being the big days. A compromise might be to have tours only during the first half of Thursday (or even all day) as if I want to do a tour it inevitably means I have to pick between the one tour I want to do and the one seminar I really want to do as it seems they are always scheduled for the same time. This year will either validate or disprove the notion that we can do away with the banquet. It's something to consider for the future.