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  1. I, for one, attend every year and rarely enter. I have proved to myself that I can compete and win. When I do enter, it isn't about trophy collecting like so many guys I know. I know many like me. We register to support the host chapter and the society as we believe there is value in doing so. I don't really care about the pins, t-shirts or hats. I do care about the Society and the brotherhood it offers. And you propose adding costs to registrants and vendors so the rest can get in for $2?! You and I will not agree on this, DAK, as I don't believe in giving non-members special treatment by subsidizing those who refuse to support the Society at the expense of the membership and supporters. Your continued advocacy for these same non-members suggests (my inference) the opposite.
  2. I have not said to raise them to "a prohibitively high level" (nor lower them to Dak's $2). A $2 GA rate would almost certainly be a loss-leader for the host chapter and possibly see a huge drop in registration numbers as guys think "$60 or $8. Wait, that's an extra $52 for models!!!" A show can go in the red very quickly (we are a non-profit, but even so!) I suggested a parity rate, and still do, of approximately a quarter of the registration fee for a single day. No "4-day passes" and no self-inflicted rhinoplasty needed. Nobody should be able to exploit the system to get a free ride (or even a $2 ride at a National!!) If the walk-up registraion rate is $60, make the day pass $15 (and make sure the cashiers have TONS of fives!!), if it's $75, then $20/day isn't excessive IMO. Always round it to the nearest $5, tho to simplify the cashiers jobs and speed up the lines. IPMS/UK admits any cardholders any national branch free GA admission. Should we do the same on a GA basis? Perhaps, the idea does have merit. To make that happen, the vendors would have to pay significantly more for tables. UK rates (where more tables means ahighercost per table!!) I seem to remember John & Caroline telling me their 5 table booth was £1800 ($2950 @ $1.64/£) or so for two days back in 2008 or 9. How many US vendors would gladly underwrite that expense?
  3. That's no excuse to dis-prefer our membership in favor of those who refuse to join for whatever reason.
  4. PS - those are prices for 2022 in St Louis if you're interested
  5. Consider this from National Model Railroad Association National Convention: NMRA Member Full Registration. $ 175.00 Non-NMRA Member Full Registration. $ 200.00 Registration is for the full 7 days and includes free admittance to the National Train Show and one self-drive tour. NMRA Member Two Day Registration $ 130.00 Non-NMRA Member Two Day Registration. $ 155.00 NMRA Member One Day Registration. $ 65.00 Non-NMRA Member One Day Registration. $ 90.00 Partner Registration. $ 65.00 Youth Registration (Under 18 years of age) $ 25.00 Notice they charge $90 for a non-member to access their vendor room for a single day. I went back in 1995 when it was in Atlanta. IIRC, 7 days was $75 and a "GA" was $20 or 25. Not even really to trains, but the vendor room was frikkin HUGE!! I got good ideas for dioramas and display bases. Oh, and BTW, they have something like 18,000 members and don't worry about "offending" non-members by charging them more. They feel their event is worth it, and so do those attending it, members and non-members alike.
  6. You missed my original point. Modelers are cheap. These are the guys that moan about the membership being too much for a "crappy magazine" yet are always around when the vendor rooms open. These are the guys who moan the "crappy decal never has anything I want". These are the guys who glom on at your local club meeting,yet never contribute. These are the guys that benefit most from what IPMS does best yet refuse to join except and until they need to be a member to enter the contest, and then complain about the contest being rigged so the same people always win and a large reason we have 50000+ membership numbers and we've never had more than 6000 active members. These are the guys who howl how elitist IPMS is. We, as a society, have bent over backwards to try to get these guys to join for 40 years or more. If it costs $60 (in advance) for the 4 day pass and $40 for 4 days of GA or $60 for "family pass" guess which one will be bought by those that abuse the society. I say the society owes them nothing more than the same deal members gladly pay for.
  7. Remember when IPMS had an "Ancient Kit" category? IIRC, it was defined as any kit from a mold 25+ years old before it was dropped (lack of participation) in the mid 90s? Doing this type of category with the OOB rules could be fun once in a while. The lack of resin and etch for kits pre1975 would encourage it.
  8. IMO, OOB is the perennial headache of IPMS judges. Every year we start seeing the "how much extra can I do and still be OOB" type questions. The proper answer should be "nothing" but we have a society filled with those that have to push the rules to gain some sort of "advantage" in the contest room. That's why we have the new base rule for armor (4 or 5 years old), that's why we can't use 3D decals now, etc. I'd say kill OOB and end the issue if it were up to me and I love to build a true OOB! (Only changing the decals to get a subject I prefer over the kit subject)
  9. That model, built as illustrated, is a diorama. It fits both portions of the diorama definition: a story is being told and there are figures not in the crew (civilian blacksmith) and extra equipment. The rules are pretty clear, IMO. What your complaint really should ask is why there isn't an OOB category in every class. Perhaps once enough kits of this sort are issued there will be an OOB category added to Dioramas.
  10. Actually, the CBL says: Article VI Elections c. Each member will have a ballot made available to them with sufficient time to return the ballot by Sept. 1 of that year for counting. I understand making adjustments for unforseen delays, but under what authority can this be extended? Asking for a friend. (And Nov 1st is the date in the CBL)
  11. Oh, and other groups offer 2 days passes as well as higher prices for Friday and even more for Saturday only.
  12. I remember that, plus wasn't there something about vendors being upset because Squadron ran a shuttle bus up to Carrollton? I would be in favor of a members-only Wednesday AND only a 3 day pass for T-F-S.
  13. GA is generally abused at Nats. People that are members know it's cheaper to go GA if they a) are not entering or b) aren't aircraft modelers looking for a "free" decal sheet to be included. It's all about saving $$ for the vendor room. Scott said Omaha would not encourage GA "skipping" by not offering 4-day passes. I have long been of the opinion that if walk-up registration is $55, GA should be $15/day as it encourages the membership to register, thus lowering the risk to the sponsoring chapter. While working the GA desk on Wednesday, there were a bunch of guys buying the Family 4-day pass for their "cousins"! Was I supposed to confront them to prove relations? People saw a way to save $20 and abused it, IMO. (I'm pretty sure they weren't all related) I think we need to have a serious discussion about this topic for the future shows. GA shouldn't be ended, but "regulated" by the Society. Note: I started a new topic, moving it from the moving models topic.
  14. I somewhat disagree Putting parts on upside down, even as Tamiya instructed one to do, was declared a misalignment issue, wasn't it? Would a misalign prop be a basic craftsmanship issue? Are you now saying we should accept parts going the wrong direction on an airplane? (The Tamiya instructions aren't wrong in this case) This makes it a basic flaw (if it's even noticed (see Gil's E-2)) per your previous argument. Same discussion, different post.
  15. I worked the registrations tables most of Wednesday and filled in some of Thursday and Friday. From an 'insider' point of view, it was well organized. Every crew could use a little more experience at running a Nats. From a previous Nats ops guy (Vendor Coord 2005, fill-in Vendor Coord 2007) there were a few things that could be improved. I have repeated said the Raffle needs to be digitized!! Put the winning tickets in Excel, put the numbers on a screen and remove them as claimed. The multiple sheets with marked out numbers always gets hard to read by Friday morning. At least re-write them every day! I also heard a bunch of grumbling on Saturday that their 'first come, first pick" raffle system left 'nothing but junk nobody wants" on the stage - but you can't please everybody. (reporting what I heard many times, not endorsing it)
  16. Cam, I really liked your P-51, FWIW... but I got a "snowblind" migrane Friday and slept thru judging in my room.
  17. That URL might be around linger, Thank you, Eric.
  18. No bids solicited for 2024, the EB only takes them 2 years out. If any club is interested in hosting 2024, they should ask TJ for a bid packet, bids will be accepted in Omaha, but there can be only one winner awarded ...unless the EB finds an exceptional bid within optional 2025 date (as was done for the LV/Omaha bids at 'Nooga)
  19. I had a local guy ask me what won yesterday while I was driving home. Bob had said it'd be on the site, and sho'nuff https://496a67d2-0f98-4216-8ffc-9a91369eedd0.filesusr.com/ugd/5eeb5c_7dc50b045f524423b53a93601c3f9d07.pdf It's a large PDF, but the list is up.
  20. Phil is correct about the dates. Scott mentioned the hotels will open for reservations sometime in mid October during the bid update portion of the biz meeting. Registration will open after the first of the year.
  21. Oy, frikkin autocorrect Prejudge, not Prejudice (prejudging)
  22. I don't know if Jim Clark will see this, but they began moving models into the correct categories Wednesday. I would imagine some prejudice has begun, if only on an individual basis by each team leader.
  23. Yes, fun. Hobbies are supposed to be fun and relaxing.
  24. True, as exemplified by Rusty & Ed's leadership of the Ships group and Mike M over in Space/SciFi. In addition to what he said about civilian vessels, there have been other changes tried. Some worked out, like large scale subs, and some didn't. If the split is repeatedly done, a category will likely be made permanent.
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