Mark0323 Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 Good morning: New to this forum. I'm an aircraft guy but recently came into possession of a tank collection and I need help identifying some armor. Would anyone be kind enough to identify the three tanks below? I appreciate your help! Mark in Fresno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bell Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) The first one is a hybrid built in France for Egypt. It's an AMX-13 turret mounted on an Sherman M4A2 hull. It was used in the Arab-Israeli wars. The next one is a Japanese Type 97, or Chi Ha. The last one is a US M-24 Chaffee. It was in use at the end of WW II, in Korea, was used by many smaller armies around the world and perhaps most notably against Godzilla and a whole host of other monsters that attacked Japan. And by the way, they are all very well done. Edited October 13, 2023 by Ron Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Deliduka Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 Ron beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark0323 Posted October 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 Hi Ron: Thank you for the quick reply and the detailed information on these tanks! I purchased 15-20 pieces of armor. The builder passed away a couple of years ago and these were at an estate sale last week and I could not resist. I plan on making labels for each of them. The builder was a long time IPMS modeler. Unfortunately, his heirs were not interested in these works of art. If I could ask for your further indulgence, here are a few more: I clearly found the right discussion forum--thanks for your help! Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Deliduka Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 The first is a British Crusader tank from the North African campaign The second a British Chieftain tank, circa 1960's-1970's Third is a British Cromwell tank, WWII Fourth is an American M41 Walker Bulldog, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark0323 Posted October 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 Thank you Mark. I know I am pressing my luck but here are a few more. I appreciate the expertise of you and Ron and this forum! Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulBradley Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 Welcome, Mark! The first is a Japanese Type 74 tank, mid-70s to 80s Second is a Sherman Calliope - those are rocket launchers in the rack above the turret Third is a British Churchill Crocodile tank - a flamethrower tank, where the trailer holds the inflammable liquid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark0323 Posted October 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 Thanks Paul, Mark and Ron! I'm getting closer--how about 3 more? Have a great evening everyone. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulBradley Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 1. West German Leopard II 2. Israeli M113 Zelda APC (armoured personnel carrier) 3. Soviet BTR-60 wheeled APC in East German markings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark0323 Posted October 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 Thank you Paul! I only have a few left--if you get time here are four more! Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bell Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) I believe those are: A German Gepard Anti-Aircraft tank (modern) A Soviet IS-2 Stalin tank (WW II) A Soviet SU-100 self propelled anti-tank gun. Although without being able to accurately gauge the length of the gun barrel, it may be a SU-85 (WW II) A German Marder armored personnel carrier (Modern) Edited October 14, 2023 by Ron Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark0323 Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Thank you Ron. This is terrific. Looks like I have three final ones as I unpack...this is a great help! Best regards, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bell Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 The single tank is a US M-10 Tank Destroyer. In the first diorama, the tank in the back is a US M-5 Stuart and the one with the open top is an M-8 Gun Motor Carriage. The wheeled vehicle is a German Schwimmwagon amphibious jeep. The last diorama has a Russian T-34 tank, and a German 105mm gun being towed by what is known as a Ostschlepper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark0323 Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Thank you Ron--have a great day! Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Deliduka Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 Mark, I'm glad that you got these all identified. I was out of town for the weekend but as you can see, we have quite a number of armor experts to help out. This is what this organization is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stikpusher Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 This one is a BTR-70, not a BTR-60. It has the troop hatch between the second and third wheels on the lower hull, plus the “high angle” firing ports behind the turret on both side of the upper hull. The turret has roof top periscopes that the BTR-60 PB did not have. Lastly it does not have the large troop hatches on the upper hull sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Deliduka Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 Good catch Carlos! I had suspected that it was the case, but given the fuzziness in my brain, I wasn't sure enough to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stikpusher Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 23 hours ago, Mark Deliduka said: Good catch Carlos! I had suspected that it was the case, but given the fuzziness in my brain, I wasn't sure enough to post. Thanks Mark. 😁 Now you know my personal background, particularly when it comes to late Cold War armor 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Deliduka Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 This is true Carlos. I have also done quite a study on these vehicles, having built a few for my collection. Naturally, not as extensive as your study of course, that is why I was still a bit uncertain. I do remember one time a fellow IPMS member who was also special forces in Iraq was showing a slideshow of all the Soviet made vehicles captured from the Iraqis during the war. Someone asked him to identify them and he didn't know most of them. Surprisingly even for me, I started rattling off the names of the different vehicles, identifying at least 98% of them. Everyone at the meeting was quite stunned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stikpusher Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 Unless an SF ODA has a mission tasking of strategic reconnaissance, they often are not up to speed on vehicle recognition. Most of their mission tasking were not related to vehicle ID, and was more direct action/door kicker stuff. In LRS, vehicle ID was our bread and butter, and I used to teach classes for my unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Deliduka Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 Yes, as I recall he did say something very similar. God Bless our soldiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stikpusher Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 An old friend, now long gone, went through NATO’s International LRRP School when he was assigned to 2/325 in Italy back in the mid 80’s. Part of their training and exam testing was on identifying vehicles at least by basic type off of very little being visible, say such as a tarped vehicle on a railroad flatcar. Only portions of the lower hull, road wheels, and tracks would be visible in the photos, everything else covered by a tarp. Better have paid attention in class to know what you’re seeing… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanKrueger Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 This is an IS-1 This is an SU-85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmarc Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 WOW,WOW,WOW, quite a serie of nicely done build up ..Love your paint and weathering job !.. Well done SIR and thank you for sharing it with us, it's quite appreciated ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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