Dakimbrell

This has gone way off track!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Dak

I wasn’t comparing anyone. I’ve truly thought it would be fun to wear awards at a show since some such as medals and medallions on ribbons are designed to be worn. As most modelers know, WWII Germans wore their medals into combat and the Russians definitely liked the bling. Americans tend to go for simple ribbons which I find more tasteful in general—-no pun intended—-situations. If we use awards which are designed to be worn, why not wear them. After all, many wear the contest pins to show they are “veterans”. I personally prefer small awards like medallions that are easy to pack and display with the model in display cases. Dak

We could wear our medals like German soldiers or Russian generals. 😁 Dak

On generic awards, a set design could be purchased by the host chapter and purchased from a specific source which gives the best price. No storage required. Just a thought. Dan

If you can’t fix the decals, perhaps that is not the model to build for OOTB. Would you choose a kit that the real thing had rigging, but was not mentioned in the instructions or seen in the box art? As for painting, I was referring to the markings. Painting and glue while not included, are referenced in the instructions. Of course, some old kits did come with glue. Overall, my point is that OOTB as practiced today is archaic and unnecessary. We would be better served creating classes for specific topics like a Bf-109 class and break it down into categories by scale. Judge oranges with oranges. There are a number of models with which we could do this way. Dak

Painting markings would not be out of the box. Dak

Why would a self respecting contestant insist on building an old, outdated kit for a major contest and insist it be judged OOTB. talk about demanding special treatment. If he was truly skilled he would be prepared to revitalize the kit supplied decals. Dak

Sorry, but it should be kit decals only. You want to compete with an antique kit, then use the old decals. Just my opinion. Dak

I think OOTB should be held to the strictest terms possible including the kit supplied decals. In the old days there was some justification for it. Not so now. I was one of those people hated to compete against because I detailed my models very heavily. Now days I don’t need to do that much extra work. Rarely do I do more than change a piece of string to a piece of wire Today, anyone can buy a WNW airplane or a Takom Panther and have an OOTB model with a full interior. Dak

OOTB is obsolescent. If you want to do a real OOTB, then make it OOTB only, including kit decals. Dak

An interesting idea, but I not sure how it would work for us. Find out more specific information. As for me, I have never had trouble getting a room at the convention hotel. Dak

Note: When people use the toilet, they zip and buckle up so whatever was on their hands is now on their clothes. 😉 Dak

But, I’m not asking in a hypothetical or general way, I’m asking what specifically upsets people. For example, I dislike SS troops being shown victorious or valiant. Seeing Patton peeing in the Rhine doesn’t offend me at all. Dak

Well first, it is not so much why one didn’t win as why another did win. I have seen many winners I personally thought were inferior to one that didn’t. I can see numerous flaws on these “winners”, yet a group of judges missed or ignored them. I mean exactly what I posted. It is not so much losing as not winning. You can lose a race because you aren’t fast enough, but this isn’t a race as much as a creative activity. Your model might not win at contest A but takes a 1st at contest B. At our level, it is a case many very good models with a few (perhaps) exceptional models. In this day and time, there are hundreds of magazines, books, and websites, etc where a modeler can go for information. A few scribbled sentences on an entry form aren’t really going to be much help. I have no sympathy for those who have to be talked off the ledge. You pick yourself up, dust off, and come back again. Those who just give up from one defeat truly are losers.

As noted, people care about winning. If not, no one would bet on the Supper Bowl or the World Cup. No one actually loses in this contest. What happens is is many don’t win. There is a difference. No matter how good you are, there will be someone who is just a tad better. In the end, it comes down to what the judges liked about a model more than what they didn’t like. And someone will still say they got it wrong. Dak