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Nats 2020 Contest Rules and Categories

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Thanks to Mark Persichetti and Team NCC for getting the 2020 National Contest Rules and Categories updated and ready for release. A few updates this year primarily in the Space/Sci Fi class. Check out the updates here:

http://www.nats2020.com/contest_pages/categories.html

http://www.nats2020.com/contest_pages/rules.html

-Len Pilhofer

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VERY interesting question! I'd like to see a response from the Chief Judge, or a couple of the Head Judges, as to what they think.

 

GIL :smiley16:

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Assuming that a winning group entry (Cat 850) is superior that all other category winners in the Miscellaneous Class (VIII) it would be awarded Best in Class as a function of the judges assigned to the Miscellaneous Class.  These judges brief the Class Judge who acts as a proponent of the entry in further Best in Show determinations

Winners of all eight Best in Class awards are then evaluated by the Class Head Judges to determine the Best in Show.   The Overall Head Judge's duty here is to wrangle  a consensus of opinions among the eight head judges.    I can't say that it has never happened, but the Overall Head Judge does not cast a vote to break a tie.   This is a function which occurs after the rank & file judges have been dismissed from the contest room.

Yes, the winner of any individual category can potentially win Best in Show, but it needs to be superior to to other models in the class and to the  other entries overall

Ed Grune -- NCC/Head Ship Judge

 

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In regards to I-4,  II-3 and II-5...

I have a few potential entries that would I would like some clarification. I design my own parts to be 3-D printed. These are conversions to represent drawing board concepts for WWII Soviet SPGs. The 3D parts are used in conjunction with traditional scratch building techniques. The silhouette is changed substantially from the original kit. How would these be categorized? Would these be entered under 228, 229, 200-C or 821?

Thanks,

BK

 

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I'll throw my opinion to the problem.   For a definative answer check with Dave Kahn (head armor judge) and/or Mark Persichetti (head judge).  I have tried to get the NCC ahead of the 3D printing issue before we are met with the problem of a major 3D project dropped on the table and what do we do now?

First of all - parts are parts, be they plastic, resin, metal, wood, paper, or are 3D printed.

Paragraph I.4 addresses 3D printed KITS,  not parts.   A totally 3D printed kit may not be considered as scratchbuilt, even if done at home by the CAD designer.  It may be entered in the appropriate standard category.

Paragraph II.3;  the use of 3D printed parts disqualifies the entry from being considered using scratchbuilt parts, rather they are considered as commercial parts.  Even if they are printed & used by the CAD designer.

Paragraph II.5 identifies the criteria for armor conversions, either scratchbuilt only (228) or kit-bashed/commercial (229).

Categories

200-C Closed-top AFV through Korea, Allied.   Generally a safe choice as long as the subject is a real-world thing.   Real-world conversions do not have to be entered in a conversion category.

228 AFV Conversions Scratchbuilt.   Not a valid choice since 3D parts are not considered scratchbuilt.

229 AFV Conversions Kit-bash [Commercial] Conversions.   A safe choice since 3D printed parts are considered 'commercial' parts.

821 Hypothetical, Kit-bashed/Scratchbuilt.   If your entry is a hypothetical, non-real-world subject this is the place for it to go.   This would of course invalidate the 200-C or 229 choices above.   This category is for both scratch-built and kit-bashed (i.e. commerical) entries.

Ed Grune -- NCC Head Ship Judge

 

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Thank you  for clarifying Ed.

I'll  see Mark at a local show in March. I'll ask him then.

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