Jump to content


  • Content Count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won


Everything posted by JClark

  1. Paul> Jim - because I'm your friend and can get away with this, you need to think of this statement in connection with your concerns about "western nationals" - saying it "is what it is" about the banquet is the same thing as saying "is what it is" about the west. Yes you can get away with it ;-) But here's the difference. IPMS won't admit it's about the money when we all know it is. Sure we in the west can't compete, it is what it is but by doing that you are abandoning a whole section of the country and not just a few people at a particular convention. Jim
  2. I like It Gil. I would save the money as I wouldn't need to attend the banquette any longer just to get a seat for the awards show. Jim
  3. Gil> Add to that the fact that we now have no less than 3-4 semi-regular hosts over the last 10-20yrs (VA beach area, Columbus, and (yes) Phoenix) that the Eboard can turn to in a crunch. AAAAA you may want to re-think at least one of those sites. I know Va Beach/Hampton were/are mighty ticked off. I can say I'm not real thrilled at the moment either , especially if we here in Phoenix are only seen as "good enough in a pinch"..... They turned to us this year and we all see what happened. Just sayin Jim
  4. Paul, you stated> Now - and most importantly - regardless of all this squabbling about who runs the show or where it's held, we do need to do everything we can to improve how attractive the national model show is. This is something that should be easily agreed to by everyone. We can improve the seminars, we can improve vendors, but most importantly we need to reach out to more modelers. Right now, and I'll stand behind this, IPMS is there to serve its own members and has lost track of the bigger picture of modeling. the IPMS convention is there to serve long time members and does little to
  5. Good points Vlad but as it is now ( and you know this living on the west coast) how many members will still be waiting for a Nats by 2018 that live where we do? The rotation kept the west relevant, now granted if no one bid from the west then the west had no room to complain. But as it is now I don't believe we will see one unless we're (The west) the only ones bidding on one. Is there a perfect answer? probably not but the society needs to figure out what they want and then go down that road. Don't say you're for the members and then do something else alienating a chuck of the membership fo
  6. Dave, You can spin numbers anyway you want. I can draw out your number out to 16 years and the east and Midwest get 4 more conventions while we don't get any. What I am saying is the E-Board doesn't always have to award the show to the best bid IF they can go west once in a while and not loose money. The society will be looking at a situation in 2018 where there hasn't been a show in the west since ours in 2010. * years is way to long and the Presidents message of "Just bid" doesn't cut it since the west has made very acceptable bids. The E-Board may not be bias towards the east and Midwest bu
  7. Yes that's why the rotation was done away with. But the unintended consequence is this. You list as an excuse for the elimination that there isn't enough time for someone to bid if no one for the region that was up fails to do so. Well that goes for the whole society and I would say look at this year when NO ONE bid in time. In which case we put a bid in with only 7 weeks to work with. Only to find out , well we all know the rest of the story. Anyways the main point is this. Why "since IPMS did away with the rotation" do acceptable bids get turned down form the western region when the only thi
  8. One thing the rotation did was kept the west relevant. Even if no one bid we were still in the mix. Now with an at wide bid we can't compete. At least if someone in the west bid in the rotation it forced IPMS's hand. Now they are free to do as they wish. So would argue that's life deal with it. Well that's true but I didn't think alienating members is what IPMS was about. We have contest rules so no one take all the prizes so then why are we so willing to toss legitimate bids just because more money can be made elsewhere. So sweeps is ok when awarding conventions but not models? It's still the
  9. Contest coordinator/chairman sounds interesting. That was the roll I was to fill had we won 17. If this sprouts wings I may be interested in that spot especially so if there are more than one team for alternating years. Jim
  10. That's why we do as Paul suggested and have a new board of 3 to 4 people run the convention and answer to the E-board. We could do as the NMRA does and have a group of member's who's job it is to coordinate the Nats. Those people for their efforts would receive free room and transport to the convention. I'm thinking that's a pretty cheap way to attract members to do this while avoiding a professional to come in and do it. Jim
  11. Paul, I'm not disagreeing with you but good grief once in awhile it wouldn't hurt to come west. . We have members and vendors out here too so Maybe that's why we may need to look at alternatives if we can't get easterners to come out here once in awhile and support their model building brothers out west. It goes back to what Gil was talking about. We need people to come out every year and not just wait for one close by. And vise versa we need to get the show across a wider path of the nation so all are not making big trips all the time like we have to. I thought IPMS was ab
  12. Agreed but do we always need to cater to the masses. You say you have to fly to come west, well hell I have to fly every year! So if the East has to fly or not come for a year I think that's the least that the easterners can do. Who knows, maybe its time for IPMS "Western" USA. Jim
  13. Respectfully Ron the lower venue costs as you state are why they and the national are making 40K in projected profit. If they can get the facility that cheap then then those costs/saving need to be passed along to the membership in lower registration fees and table costs for Vendors. The bottom line is the fact they can make a bigger profit. If one offers 13K in profit and the other is 40K and the members are the ones paying for all this then yes both parties are making money off the membership. As I have said before. If Omaha can get the facility this cheaply then IPMS needs to take a hard
  14. Thanks for the clarification. Still all that profit is coming form the members. At what point is enough , enough ?? Are we a society out to gouge members or have model conventions with a modest profit and not loose money. Everyone's mileage will vary on that one I'm guessing. Jim
  15. ON the surface Omaha's bid was indeed better. I counter that there are (many) reason behind the scenes as to why. Yes it sounds like sour grapes for everyone looking at the parties involved but it really isn't. It's more of a logistical problem within the organization. At this point questions need answered so to elaborate now is pointless until further information comes out. Jim
  16. Nick, I will respectfully disagree . 13k vs 40K in profit is the reason. Quite frankly I'm a bit put back by the society making that kind of profit off the back of members. After all were a non profit outfit. If a chapter can make that kind of profit off a deal with their venue then they need to kick money back to attendants/members and Vendors. You say costs for one are higher and yes you are correct, that's why there is such a difference in the profit so what is Omaha's excuse if they are not paying for the hall? Jim
  17. Ok, some of you may not like this answer but if we make accommodations for those who don't participate in the banquet then the banquet dies off. We have to have hold one according to the rules as they were stated to me. That and the hotel usually requires a food package of some sort. So there ya go... Jim
  18. Best Ship was a Gallery Models 1/350, Intrepid Best Figure was a small scale Santa clause and the Best Diorama was a WW1 trench diorama with a tank and 3 Germen masked soldiers. I;m sure pics will be up soon Jim
  19. That's why I always buy a ticket to the banquet. It's a ticket to the show and helps the local with their hotel contract. Jim
  20. Well bob if you have 3 people staying in the room then the rate is 144. Two people would be 134 which is the rate negotiated. Jim
  21. Ok seams that since we have 3 people in the room we get a higher rate by 10 per night. The first person I spoke with couldn't tell me that. Jim
  22. Ok. I called and made the res sinve my computer is down at the moment. I told th who I was with and named the convention but she daid her code showed 144. I will call back and verify the ipm code with them. Thanks lynn! Jim
  23. Ok hope this isn't a duplicate post. Hampton guys, check with Embassy suits. I just made my res and its $10 higher a night than what John told us it would be last saturday at the bid meeting. Jim
  24. After some thought on this I don't see the need right now to change anything. Hey if it ain't broke right? I think at this time the best we can do is have some sort of contingency plan in case no one bids. That is biggest threat right now.
  25. As for making up school my neighbor is a teacher and she tells parents Nope! if your kid aint there then they miss the work. She's not going out of her way to accomadate parents. Now granted this is just one but our schools get paid by the state for each student based on thier attendance so when the kid misses a day they don't get the money. Plus thats a bad time to pulla kid out , right after school starts. Heck my wife wanted no part last year of going only to return a day before school started. There is no real answer here since there are a bunch of varibles to contend with. BUT the one th
  • Create New...